Comments on: Word on the street: stogies and vino http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/ Serving Harlem Cultural Flavor Since 2006 Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:37:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: violet http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-21737 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:24:26 +0000 http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-21737 thanks, i like a good cigar every once in a while and i live in harlem. instead of going downtown, i can spend the money in my own neighborhood. with the smoking laws as they are, there are so few places to enjoy a good smoke. i don’t see a problem. the bottom line is if you don’t agree with the policy, don’t patronize the establishment.

]]> By: anon http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17628 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:24:12 +0000 http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17628 #1 – Where is your self-righteous, moral outrage about all the fast-food and other fried crap in Harlem? Your arguments are sad and laughable at best. Get over yourself and find a real cause.

]]> By: Hugo http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17417 Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:51:01 +0000 http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17417 ha…so if UF announces a new bar/restaurant it’s promoting the death of blacks and latinos at the hands of alcohol and grease. i get your health concerns guys, just don’t make UF the bad guy for putting out the word on these new places. as for me, poker night’s next week. gonna pick me up a Leon Jimenez.

]]> By: Mindful http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17369 Sun, 08 Jul 2007 11:10:54 +0000 http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17369 Wow! Can’t believe the vociferousness of the posters on this topic! And the quick pull of the race card (shouldn’t you hold that in reserve at least until you see what the other players around the table are playing?).

I smoke a cigar about 4 times per year. That’s it. Special occasions. Maybe other people smoke more. Next time I go buy a cigar, am I going to go to the cigar shop around the corner from where I work in Midtown? Or am I going to go to Madison and 119? Because I’m proud of this community and want to see new establishments succeed (which encourages other new establishments – restaurants, clothing shops, nightlife, etc. to open), I’m gonna go to the new cigar shop on Madison.

Bottom line – I earn my salary in Midtown and try to spend it in Harlem. I think that should be the goal. Besides the health concern (you’re not changing any opinions here), I think some of the posters above are way off-base.

]]> By: KG http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17253 Sat, 07 Jul 2007 04:34:19 +0000 http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17253 Lack of jobs, lack of educational opportunities, lack adequate health care causes more destitution than nicotine. Bravo UF for promoting a local businesses. As a result, people from within are being empowered.

]]> By: Smoky http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17237 Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:15:10 +0000 http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17237 If there is one thing that makes my butt itch it is people who prop themselves up on a high horse and attempt to make themselves the moral police. It is condescending and insulting my intelligence. We are adults. This isn’t a school house full of children who don’t yet know right from wrong and it certainly isn’t a church. I read magazines with liquor and cigarette ads. Does that mean I go out and get drunk and smoke every time I read them? The subway has those ads as well as billboards. Give it rest! Let people make their own choices whether they eat meat, smoke or ride motorcycles.

]]> By: Anonymous http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17235 Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:59:08 +0000 http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17235 Hugo,

Exactly. “It’s a Cigar Shop”. There is no difference in saying those words and saying “It’s a Cigarette Shop” or saying, “It’s a shop that’s in the business of hooking you on a drug – nicotine – who’s product ultimately kills you”.

My point was the absurdity of UF advertising, promoting, and bringing attention to a business that’s in the business of destructing health – and in this case to likely Black people.

We kill ourselves. We make excuses, work to diminish, divert, etc. but the bottom line is tobacco kills you – why is Uptown Flavor pushing a tobacco distributing business?

Explain that without diversion. If UF wants to be part of the chain of killing Black people, that’s fine and their choice, I just thought they were more enlightened to the issue of tobacco.

There’s no excuse, spin, nothing you can say to prop up UF, it’s nothing short of ignorance and ethnic suicide to promote a cigar bar in Harlem.

Just because it exist does not mean UF needs to engage in the promotion of the place. Don’t confuse the issue. UF is choosig to participate in the promotion of a killing activity in Harlem. Explain the wisdom in that.

Anyone here willing to say it’s legit, and fine for UF to push a tobacco parlor? Doing that is participating in the chain of death for Black people. The key to killing Black people is to get ignorant Black people to particpate in their destruction – but fooling them and couching it in a context to where they except it, ya’ll know how foolish, ignorant, and easy it is to pull the wool over the eyes of Negoes and tell them black is white, and white is black, and up is down, and down is up.

So is UF part of the ignorant Negro culture and mentality? Participating in the pushing of tobacco on Black folk and all.

Higher intelligence and wisdom, higher thinkers don’t engage in the killing of their own, get a clue UF.

]]> By: Hugo http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17195 Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:42:38 +0000 http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17195 ha..wow. you guys make a federal case out of just about everything…lol. can people just enjoy their vices? it’s not like a Joe Camel Concert at St Nick’s Park or anything. It’s a cigar shop

]]> By: poof http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17192 Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:28:39 +0000 http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17192 #1 needs to smoke something stronger than a cigar and chill out.

]]> By: flip http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17154 Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:07:06 +0000 http://uptownflavor.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/word-on-the-street-stogies-and-vino/#comment-17154 First a caviar and champagne bar that never really launched; now a cigar bar. Sure it is great to add new businesses to the neighborhood, but it would also be great to get some businesses that met the needs of more than a handful of residents.

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